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Post by gaztaylor » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:06 pm

F1 season is soon upon us, lots of cunning new designs, new tyre manufacturer and 2 teams called Lotus, just to confuse everyone. Cant wait!
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Post by gaztaylor » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:57 pm

A few cars have already been launched
McLaren
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Mercedes
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Red Bull
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Ferrari
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And the official Lotus (formerly Renault)
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I love that old black and gold livery from the Mansell/Senna era John Player sponsored Lotus
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Post by CJ45007 » Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:48 pm

Yeah I'm looking forward to the new season of F1 too hopefully it will be just as entertaining as last season.

I do think McLaren need to get there upgrades working efficiently as the updates towards the end of last seasons car didn't really do much to improve McLaren's chances of winning the drivers or the constructors championships.
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Re: F1

Post by madcapper » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:47 pm

KERS back, adjustable rear wings, and a new tyre manufacturer. Should make for an entertaining season. I've read that the Pirellis degrade faster than the Bridgestones so it's reckoned there will be more tyre changes. Let's hope the championship stays as open as last year's, going right down to the wire.
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Post by Pleasureseeker » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:23 pm

But no Bobby K as he's done a number on his hand and other parts of his person :-(

More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 388940.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by gaztaylor » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:26 pm

Rear wings are flexible, not adjustable, they have always been adjustable, now they are allowed to be flexible enough to bend backwards at speed to reduce drag, not a new thing, it was first used years ago and they banned them. There are some odd things in the pipeline for future years, such as 1.6ltr Turbo engines that must do a race distance on a set amount of fuel and plans to drop wings altogether
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Post by Pleasureseeker » Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:41 pm

gaztaylor wrote:Rear wings are flexible, not adjustable, they have always been adjustable, now they are allowed to be flexible enough to bend backwards at speed to reduce drag, not a new thing, it was first used years ago and they banned them. There are some odd things in the pipeline for future years, such as 1.6ltr Turbo engines that must do a race distance on a set amount of fuel and plans to drop wings altogether
Nope - definitely adjustable in-car when the driver is within 1 second of the car in front in a zone designated by Charlie Whiting. See here for a video: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/02/01/v ... auber-c30/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I shall probably stop watching in 2013 as the new engine formula doesn't appeal at all (gimme a screaming V10 or V12 any day :-D). Neither does KERS and the rear wing malarkey grab me TBH but I'll give it a go...
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Post by gaztaylor » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:02 am

I was talking about adjustable by mechanics rather than the driver, I didnt know about the driver being able to alter the rear wing. Ive never been a fan of KERS either
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Re: F1

Post by madcapper » Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:35 am

Bad news about Kubica this morning. Looks like he might have to miss the whole season. Here's wishing him a full recovery.
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Post by madcapper » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:01 am

Bring out a new rule and someone will find a way round it. I remember the Renault 1.5 litre turbo engines in the early 80s - they absolutely trounced the old 3 litre Ford engines. I think they reduced the capacity of the turbo engines to 1.4 litres, but still they managed to extract more power. More recently we've had grooved tyres, smaller wings, but still the cars resolutely refuse to lose any performance. It's a major challenge to the designers, and hopefully at least some of the new technology will make it noto our road cars.
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Post by gaztaylor » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:20 pm

Those old turbos used to hit 1000bhp in cars that were half the size of a modern day F1 car
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Post by Pleasureseeker » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:39 pm

gaztaylor wrote:Those old turbos used to hit 1000bhp in cars that were half the size of a modern day F1 car
Gerhard Berger told me that his 1986 Benetton-BMW did 1200BHP on the dyno :o

That was the limit of the dyno - the guys who worked on the car always reckoned on about 1400BHP in race trim and probably about 1700BHP in qualifying :o

His other comment was that you didn't drive the car - the bloody car drove you :mrgreen:

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Re: F1

Post by gaztaylor » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:58 pm

Kubica's crash is a bit of a strange one, he didnt crash during the rally, he crashed while driving the car to the start of the rally!
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Re: F1

Post by fusion » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:34 am

gaztaylor wrote:Kubica's crash is a bit of a strange one, he didnt crash during the rally, he crashed while driving the car to the start of the rally!
Feel sorry for the guy he was tipped as a front runner for the F1 championship this year. Mind you who are renault gonna replace him with Romain Grosjean or Bruno Senna? its not like another guy of Kubica's Calibre is floating about the paddock unnoticed
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Re: F1

Post by gaztaylor » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:05 am

Kimi Raikkonen?
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Post by fusion » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:46 pm

gaztaylor wrote:Kimi Raikkonen?
Ya know i completely forgot about mumbles good call just depends if he's ready to finish messing around in the WRC or not
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Re: F1

Post by CJ45007 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:12 pm

Well as Nick Heidfeld as done Pirelli tyre testing he'd be a good choice for Renault to sign up as he will be able to give Renault info on a number of things about tyres which would give Renault a little advantage on the other teams & also he is experienced driver that will get you points if you give him a good car.

If Renault decide to gamble they could bring in Bruno Senna as if he is as fast in a car as the GREAT Aryton Senna says he is then after a couple of races should be getting points every race for the team if he doesn't then his not of F1 standard also it would mean Renault gamble failed.
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Post by Pleasureseeker » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:56 pm

From what I hear, it's between Quick Nick and Tonio Liuzzi.

Either would be good, but I'd prefer Nick in the car for his experience in developing a car - something that Tonio is not so experienced at given the testing restrictions of the last few years.

The Pirelli thing is of no consequence as the tyres are very different now to what Nick tested initially last year.
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Re: F1

Post by fusion » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:17 pm

Nick Heidfield got the nod for the renault seat good luck to him
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Re: F1

Post by Pleasureseeker » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:33 pm

32 days 'til Melbourne.

No Bahrain due to the local difficulties resulting in the race being called off. Which is the best and most sensible thing to do.
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